I. Family Life: Then and Now
II. A Defining Moment and the Turn Towards Powerlifting
III. Life as a Powerlifter: Slings and Arrows and Other Related Issues
IV. Project: Special Olympics 2011
V. Liam's Take on Seaweed, Art, and Stag Parties

NM: Tell me about your experience growing up in your family. What were your parents like? How many siblings do you have? What was the atmosphere of your home life? Did you have pets? How did the fact that two of your siblings have Downs Syndrome play a role in the dynamics of your family?

LB: I am 40 years of age, born April 20th 1965.The youngest of 7 children, 3 brothers and three sisters; I have never been treated as the youngest, losing out my place in the family set up to my older, by one year, sister Margarette. Margarette has Downs Syndrome as has my brother Michael, the oldest of the Beville children, but Margarette also has autism and needed quite an amount of care as everything has to be done for her such as dressing, washing and even being brought to the toilet and this was all done by my now deceased mother. Any spoiling or pampering that usually is placed on the youngest of an Irish family did not come about in this case and was almost forgotten as a member of the family as other factors also came into play. My mother was 40 years of age when she gave birth to me and just 11 months previous had given birth to Margarette which always led me to believe that I was a mistake. As she went through the "change of life" and had an hysterectomy directly after my birth, I also grew up with a feeling that she resented me for the loss of her "woman hood" but was probably all in my imagination. But this "chip on my shoulder" which was now developing and reinforced in my mind in later life with the knowledge by the death of my uncle prematurely in a freak road accident just two months before my birth. Looking back I think that during those days in the womb I received and felt my mothers sorrow and believe I was destined to suffer dark days in the form of depression that I battle constantly and often hope, secretly.

I grew up a melancholy child and very shy and resented my sister Margarette for having Down Syndrome and taking my attention from me but later in life I made peace with my own mind and my sister.

I was slight of build and had a very small frame but I was never a weak child and probably through having this chip on my shoulder with my family and life in general that I believe I had a huge strength within my mind as I could always focus through the pain barrier on getting a job done. I was not considered athletic at this time due to my small stature but I was never the one that bullies picked on and as I had a very troubled mind that would manifest itself in fits of rage I was given a wide birth by would be bullies and I actually became the anti-bully growing up, not because I was defending someone as I did not befriend someone easy (still don't), but because I was always seeking a fight and always a fight where the odds were stacked against me. This I believe was due to me trying to prove myself worthy and Freud would likely blame my mother.

On one such occasion two bullies were picking on this one guy and started to beat on him so I immediately took these bullies to task and when winning, the guy, who was previously the victim, started to take his revenge on one of these guys and I immediately turned and protected the bully whilst attacking this guy I originally defended. I was troubled in mind to say the least.

My mother was highly religious and to this day I have a loathing for any organised religion.

My father was an all round sports man and a noted rugby player and I idolised him and always sought his approval but my father was also fond of the drink and through his own troubles did not notice me as I would have liked. I miss my father immensely since his death and often feel guilty that I do not feel the same about my mother. I grew up without love but I do not leave this affect my home life as my children idolise me and I spend as much quality time with them as life allows.

I didn't have the typical Irish sons life growing up but then again I was not fully Irish as my grandfather, on my fathers side, was French and of the protestant faith. Being the only protestant living in the proud area of "Thomondgate" at that time and marrying a Catholic woman took guts as you constantly faced confrontation. I guess in some strange way this was passed to all my family who never shirk in the face of adversity. The Beville's are now well known in Thomongate and are respected. My mother had huge amounts of pride but was racially prejudiced against the British establishment but not the people as my sister is married these 25 years to a doctor from England and she lives there. My mother comes from a very old Limerick family who were known as the "Abbey Fishermen" who ran a guild of fishermen consisting of eight families. They were a community within a community and their livelihood ended by the building of the country's first Hydro-Electric dam in the new Free State. Betrayal by our then government of the time saw an end to their once proud existence and livelihood. The Beville's, however, in contrast were fairly well off for the standards of the time as all were engineers in ships and were paid well but all were also fond of drinking and were also known for their generosity and would often give everything they had away as was the case of my father who with my mother, who was frugal in nature, had a business but my father gave everything away on credit to customers and never collected. They lost this business and needless to say not a day would go by that my mother would remind him of the loss and who was to blame. I often wonder was it this that would make my father go to a public house early in the day and stay late. We grew up in the early stages in poverty but my mother was extremely good with the family budget and made it go a long way while also managing to find ways of saving. This paid off later as we became the household to get the new modern conveniences as they came on market. My other brothers and sisters are all married and live a way from the family home except for one of my sisters, Betty, who lives not far from me with her husband and two children and now cares for my sister Margarette and brother Michael in her home. Betty is the second oldest in the family and the closest to me in my feelings for my family, which doesn't amount to much for my two brothers Kieran and Alec. Kieran lives in Bandon, Cork and had a ministry there (Baptist) and my sister Christine in England is also of the Baptist religion. My sister Betty is a catholic like my mother and Alec is a non practising catholic. So as you can see we were always a divided family but always came together in times of crisis. The boys learned early in life to cook and clean as was not the norm of a typical Irish family who get everything done for them by the women of the house and to this day I have a huge flair for cooking and I am inventive when cooking. If you give me a taste of something I can recreate the dish almost perfectly. The girls on the other hand are useless cooks and my sister Christine (we nicknamed her Dean) to this day and have even gone to the trouble of taking cookery lessons but to no avail in my opinion, ha! ha!

I have always had dogs when growing up and up to recently I had a dog but at present I have no pets. They say that a dog is mans best friend but in my case this was an understatement as my dogs were my best friends.

As I grew older I also grew somewhat in confidence and was always attracted by good looking women so when it came to dating I would always go for the good looking girls of the bunch. I was very shallow in this respect. I have always considered myself good looking as it was often conveyed to me by relatives and friends of my mother who would often stop them from saying such things as it would give me " a big head" as it was referred to or arrogant as I like to put it.

As I was extremely shy and especially with girls I would often rely on my looks for them to make the first move which happened quite often. As I grew in confidence the more this would happen and eventually outgrew my shyness, to a degree due to this, and mostly as I considered shyness to be a weakness and where I come from you do not show weakness if you wish to survive.

NM: How long have you been married to your wife? How did you meet? What does she do?

LB: I met my wife in a night club on the 14th April 1994 in a Limerick Night Club. I was attending a wedding reception of a friend's sister that day and I left early out of boredom and went to this Night Club. She approached me and we are together since. We married in 1999 and have two beautiful children of which I have enclosed a black and white image of. Isabella is 6 and Christopher is 2(named after my dad).

My wife recently returned to work due to me being on disability benefit and works for a very large employer in Limerick, "Dell" who are an American company who manufacture PC's. I enclose a photograph of us on our wedding day. My wife was born on 13 July 1975 and is 10 years my junior.

NM: What are your children, Christopher and Isabella, like? What are your favorite activities as a family?

LB: I love my two children very much and when my wife is at work I take care of them. Both are very intelligent and advanced for their age and both are loving kids who adore their parents. I would often take my daughter training with me as she is my biggest fan. Christopher on the other hand I took once and he got bored. As a family we take yearly foreign holidays and in summer spend a lot of time at "Kilkee" a beach town only 60 miles from Limerick where we swim and walk the scenic trails and eat out together.

We always attend restaurants as a family group and often on Sundays go to the countryside and feed ducks by the river. We tend to be very outdoors in our activities and we have barbeques in our little garden whenever we get the opportunity or when the weather permits. We are a very close knit family.

NM: What sort of sports or competitive activities were you involved in previous to the accident that crushed your leg and hip?

I always was competitive as I would compete in just about everything I did always aiming to do it better or faster than someone else. I would try to finish my meals faster than my brothers even as if I lost then they would try to take it. Try being the operative word, as being small did not make me a loser. At this time I was fast in pace and I would swim all day long in Summer in a nearby river (the Tailrace, a very dangerous stretch of water) sometimes I would enter competitions such as the Christmas day race, where braving the cold was the competition, and also the long distance river swim. My father was a brilliant swimmer who swam these water as indicated by the black and white image (see Photos). I presume I partook in swimming to seek attention from my father but I was good at it so I continued it too. I also tried rugby but I never stood out and I played basketball and soccor of which I was average.

The night I had my accident typified my life at this time. I was just 18 and had got back with my ex-girlfriend who was a local model at the time. She had been my ex as I at this time was torn between two girls of which she was one and went from one to the other. My actions were bordering on the arrogance to say the least.

The night in question also saw me get into a gang brawl which again I got involved in because I saw some of my friends fighting and left my girlfriend and went into the fight.

On the way home, and unrelated, a stolen car approached myself and my friend at high speed mounting the pavement and I reacted by pushing my friend out of the path of the oncoming vehicle and immediately tried to dive for cover myself but was hit by this vehicle which was estimated by bystanders to be doing approx. 60 miles an hour.

I believe I was hit while in mid air and by diving I saved my life, although I suffered serious injuries to my lower limbs and had been knocked unconscious when my head hit the ground on my way back to earth.

I spent 8 weeks in hospital where I also spent 6 months in a wheelchair and one year with both my legs in plaster of Paris all the way up to my hips. My recent hip replacement and my continuing knee trouble are directly related to this accident. The hospital, Barrington's Hospital, now closed, was by the river and from the window of this hospital I watched the river swim competition, the same competition I trained for and would now never compete in again due to my leg injuries. I would never be able to even run again. I can still swim but not with any speed.

NM: Was power lifting a natural evolution of your rehabilitation after the accident?

LB:I entered a gym for the first time in my nineteenth year as rehabilitation for my legs, which had just seen the removal of the plaster. I walked into the gym with the aid of two underarm crutches and I never looked back.

I became interested in competing in Powerlifting years later when I befriended a local champion bodybuilder who owned a gym and was getting a team together to take on the newly formed gym, the Southill Weightlifting Gym, run by Tommy Dillon (you see his image in the Hall of Fame page of the Irish Powerlifting Organisations website). This was 1985 and I lifted well that day winning my weight division but losing the team trophy which went to Tommy.

The rematch was no different except I was team captain but the match after that which was an all Limerick affair and saw me win the Limerick championships in my weight division and also take the best lifter award.

I decided I wished to be a fully fledged Powerlifter and the best way to do this was to join Tommy in his gym, which geared towards the Powerlifter, and leave the gym I was presently in which was more geared towards bodybuilders. I would eventually open a gym with this person whose gym I was now leaving but this was to be in 1989 and after I was to win several Munster, National, and International titles and also records with Tommy Dillon, whose coaching and friendship I have remained loyal to since our meeting in 1985, even when I ran my own gym I would always train in Tommy's Gym.

NM: How did the accident and your subsequent interest in power lifting change/shape your life in the following respects: professional goals, dating, relationship to your body, sense of self. I guess I am looking for a bit of a description of these things before and after the accident, but this may be difficult to do as you were still a teenager when this happened, and these things may have not been well-developed beforehand.

LB: My goals before the accident were not significantly developed as I was like every teenager who lived in the moment and was care less about the future as I did not give it much thought. After the accident I was more tunnelled vision on achieving every possible success in my now chosen sport and also wished to develop a career from it .I opened a gym which was successful at first but was let down by the partners I went into business with. Honesty was not their forte which eventually led to the closing of what seemed on the outset a very viable business prospect. As my physique developed so did my standing in the local community as young boys wished to emulate me, women seemed more attracted to me and men wished to share my company, probably gain some reflection of this lime light. This was more notable in summer as one wore less clothing than in winter time and I became a well known figure in my locality. I would also stand out more to potential employers.

NM: Tell me about your accomplishments as a powerlifter, as well as a few of your failures.

LB: In my 20 year career as a powerlifter I have achieved quite a lot. Not only have I won several "Munster", "Irish" and "Celtic" titles but I also broke several of these records and still hold several records to date. I have enclosed a black and white image of myself with my father displaying a select amount of trophies for these titles I won. This was taken for the local paper.

As well as winning several titles I also successfully coordinated the Powerlifting event at the Special Olympics in Dublin, 2003 where I met some international celebrities such as Arnold Swartzenegger and Mohamad Ali. I have also travelled the world as a result of Powerlifting and I have trained alongside the then best in Bodybuilding and Powerlifting as well as Hollywood movie stars when in Venice Beach, Los Angelus (Trained in Worlds gym and Golds gym).

At the height of my career I was the number one ranking middleweight in Ireland and number 5 in Europe which considering my injuries was a huge achievement as at one time amputation was considered.

To this day I am still placed in the top 100 lifters of all time, coming in at number 46 in the middle weight division (75 kg bodyweight). I won titles at 67.5 kg, 75 kg and 82.5 kg weight divisions. Being successful in Powerlifting has made it easier for me to find work as employers are always looking for the successful, motivated person of which a glimpse at my powerlifting achievements indicates I am. I have competed in several World championships where I failed in my own expectations.

I always feel as I should have achieved Gold in a World championships for the "Deadlift" in my earlier days, this I consider to be my greatest failure but I had several career breaks which impeded my progress but this time around will be my last shot as injuries have caught up with me and I have had a serious hip operation just 8 months gone where I had my hip replaced with a titanium replacement and I am also facing major Knee surgery. Again to just qualify for this World championships will be a huge achievement but I will not be happy until I receive my Gold medal.Nothing ever comes easy to me and I have been successful before in the past whilst facing great odds and I will be so again. The qualifiers for the world championships will be in April 9th and I will keep you informed. Getting old and not having achieved that gold is my failure as a powerlifter.

NM: How did the Irish Powerlifting Organization get started? What was the powerlifting community in Limerick and Ireland like before its formation?

LB:The Irish Powerlifting Organisation (IPO) is a newly formed organisation that grew out of a need to progress the sport in a country that does not formally recognise it. We, through our achievements internationally and our growing membership wish for this. Powerlifting up to our formation was stagnating and was downward trending in both participation and new membership. The sport was fairly big in the 1980's but had a dramatic fall off in the late 1990's.

Although the city of Limerick has its few world champions the main sport for Limerick is Rugby and Ireland has a huge GAA (Gaelic Football and Hurling) fan base.

NM: The 2006 World Championships will be held at the Kilmurray Lodge Hotel in Limerick in November. Is this the first time Ireland has hosted such games? What preparations need to be made for this event? What will your duties be as the Secretary of the IPO?

The World Powerlifting Championships will come to Limerick in November 2006 and is the first time since the formation of Powerlifting as a sport that this has happened. Ireland has helped on one occasion, in Waterford, the European Union Cup, which is a secondary European Championships and not to be confused with the European Championships, as it is only open to members of the European Union States. Ireland has also hosted Celtic Nation championships which is an international event which takes place between Ireland, Scotland and Wales each year and is hosted on a rotational basis, every third year Ireland host this event.

My role in organising this World event will be Public Relations approaching the event, organising publicity, and meeting press and dignitaries and sponsors. I will on the day organise the officials table where scores, records and lifters attempts are recorded and recreated on the digital screens. I raise the money to hold the event and basically get the competition to the day where the promoter and platform manager ensures for smooth running. All paperwork concerned is created and recorded by me. Medals, participant certificates, city memento's and record certs need to be in place for the event by me as well as accommodation organised for officials and lifters of all nations and also outline places of interest for the visitors to see. This interview with you is all part of my PR.

NM: On the IPO website, you have designated a page for powerlifters elected in to a Hall of Fame. It intrigued me that of the men highlighted on this page, there were equal examples of a long healthy lifestyle in powerlifting (like Tommy Dillon) and men who seemed to have died prematurely (like Ken Lawless and Kieran Sheehy). What can you tell me about the mortality rate in powerlifting? What are the benefits and dangers of putting one's body through years of training?

LB: Due to the demands of any elite sport you begin to decline at certain ages for differing sports. Powerlifting is no different to this and for this reason they have a "Masters" section where men and women of older ages can compete at a fair level. Master sections range from 40 right up to the over 80's masters category(in increments of 4 years e.g Master 1 = 40 years to 44 years and Masters 2 = 45 years of age to 49 years etc.) I do not know of any other sport that has such a huge competitive base at such a high level which suggests that powerlifters not only compete longer but also live longer. Ken Lawless died from Kidney disease and had his body not rejected his donated kidney would still be alive today and Kieran Sheehy also died from matters unrelated to powerlifting. Your decline at the top level of any sport differs, mid 30's for rugby, early 20's for gymnastics but powerlifting and most strength sports tend to go a lot longer as strength declines a long time after speed and endurance. Because of the Master sections Powerlifters can compete for as long as they want at the elite end of their sport. My self, with all my injuries from an accident way before I began powerlifting, might be seen by people not in the know as a result of the sport but the truth is that if I had not done powerifting I would most likely still be in a wheelchair. There is also the myth that the heavy weights create a burden on your heart due to the strain and pressure to lift such a weight but this is untrue and any heart related problems that some lifters get and premature deaths are definitely down to other underlying factors.

NM: Also on the Hall of Fame page, Tom Ward is referred to as a "modern powerlifter" and uses a "powerlifter suit." Can you give a definition of the modern powerlifter and describe a powerlifter suit and its uses?

LB: When powerlifting began in this country it was as a result of some people who trained in gyms to compliment their physiques or to better their ability to perform at another sport, coming together to see who could be the strongest at particular lifts as was the nature and competitiveness of such people. Competitions were organised and rules began to apply which also allowed for safety rules as the wearing of large belts to protect the spine but no other equipment was considered.

What I call the modern lifter developed equipment that he could wear that would improve performance as does the suit suit, deadlift suit, bench shirt, larger belts and knee wraps even footwear and briefs are noted to improve performance.

The rules began to take shape to allow these mentioned pieces of equipment as they also had a safety dimension as they took certain pressures from the body but in the earlier days athletes experimented with wearing tight jeans which acted like the squat suit in storing the downward energy in a spring like state and releasing on the upward movement. Some athletes then took this further by placing (bandage on or tape) on the backs of their knees, tennis balls, for that spring effect. Needless to say that this practise was quickly banned as this was dangerous but the squat suit was developed from this as a safer way for athletes to improve performance while maintaining safety. Tom Ward was to introduce this type of equipment to the Irish Powerlifter, modern equipment which was developed in the USA.

NM: What is the relationship of steroids and amphetamine use to powerlifting? I understand most powerlifting organizations promote drug-free training and competitions. What is your view of this issue?

LB: As with all elite sports, drugs can be an issue but I always try to promote and encourage powerlifters to avoid such aids, which I believe do not give the edge that many report they do. The mind is the greatest steroid of all and to develop this then you will have no need for the other. Powerlifting events are tested events and performance enhancing drugs are banned. If a lifter is caught using these drugs then lengthy bans are strictly imposed. Having said that Powerlifting and the other strength sports seem to get the blame for all steroid abuse by the press whose opinions filters down to the ordinary lay person who can be forgiven for thinking that all powerlifters are drug takers but is not the case. All sports are equally guilty: cycling, snooker, swimming, sprinting is but a few sports that have had their fair share of scandals and whilst we will never fully prevent a person from using banned substances to win, we still can only do what we can. It all depends on the individual and how badly he or she wants to win and at what cost. Usually ignorance on these matters prevents the individual from even considering costs.

I will always educate the athlete with the fact that steroid users will rise faster than a person without but will also fall quicker and sharper and the person who takes the high road of not using such crutches will get to the same place and will have longevity also at the sport. This is fact.

Most that enter powerlifting do so initially as they wish for a healthy lifestyle so by education we can return the bad sheep to this fold they once came from.

NM: In a social-political and historical train of thought, I am wondering about your views of powerlifting as it functions within the larger society. In the U.S., bodybuilding and related activities developed concurrently with the women's liberation movement in the late 60s and 70s, which suggests a certain emasculation of the U.S. male. Does the history of bodybuilding and powerlifting in Ireland differ? Do you think these two issues are related? Do you think the ideals (physical, emotional, professional) of the Irish male have changed over the past 30 years? (I do understand there are a wealth of female powerlifters, but it seems males lead the way in the formation of these activities). LB: While Powerlifting enjoys both Male and Female competitors, it is true to say that it is dominated by the male.

Limerick is renowned for its strength sports with rugby at the fore. We are known as the sporting capitol of Ireland and this is no different for powerlifting.Its not a coincidence that this statement is true but has a very strong political reason and Limerick people are often looked down upon by the rest of Ireland and the national press as a whole. I feel that, like my own story, Limerick people have a "chip on their shoulder" about this and constantly need to prove themselves and they do this through sport and as a strength sport allows for more aggression and the release of pent up rage then this type of sport appeals to the Limerick man.

Sport is the refuge of the male.

It is also true to say that Powerlifting is the last sporting refuge of the male since the empowerment of femininism and Ireland is no different in this respect to the USA.

NM: In 2003, the Special Olympics World Games were held in Dublin, Ireland. Is this the first time you paid attention to these Games? Describe the impact attending these games had on you. What did you see, experience, and think about?

LB: My involvement for the 2003 Special Olympics began a year and a half earlier as preparations for these games would be enormous. The logistics of so many nations competing alone was mind boggling. We organised the 2002 nationals as a precursor for this event and as Ireland does not have a powerlifting team, then this national was attended by several other invited countries. This led me to try and resolve this fact of Ireland not having any powerlifting in their Special Needs calendar of events. Although this was my first involvement in organising an event for Special Olympics, this was not my first involvement with them as both my brother and sister were medallists in regional special Olympic swimming competitions and I ran 10 kilometre events to raise monies towards the local special needs school, "Bawnmore", to go towards Special Needs athletes. The biggest impact these games had on me was to see special needs athletes compete at a high level in a sport I enjoy myself and to hold true nationals some day.

NM: Around the time of the Special Olympics in 2003, you were instrumental in forming the National Training Center for Special Needs (if not yet in form of an actual building). I understand there will be a faction of British Special Olympians at the April National Championships in Limerick. How much interest have you had in the formation of a future Irish Special Olympics Powerlifting National Team?

LB: At present Ireland still does not have a national team in Powerlifting and I do not have a centre for to train the elite of Special Needs to compete. I am at present trying to convince groups who work with special needs and parents of special needs that Powerlifting is safe and fun and has additional benefits for people with special needs, like a sense of achievement, a goal and purpose and discipline of mind and body, which can only be got from sport. Hence the British team will display their ability (and not their disability) at our nationals. I have invited all of the groups mentioned to attend and hopefully they will report back to the parents of the special needs and this will generate the athletes that are needed before any further progression can be done.

I am meeting obstacles constantly in my endeavours for the NTCSN and have been promised lots but got little, actually nothing, for whatever reasons or agenda these false promisers have.

I will continue to look for this NTCSN from local and national politicians who I see as ignoring this cause and other special needs causes in this country.

NM: What inspired you to write "The All Bodies Diet"? Can I, as a non-powerlifter, follow this diet to slim down and improve my strength in a general way? Is it available outside of Thomondgate and O'Connell?

LB: I have trained several athletes over several years for bodybuilding and powerlifting where weight and fat loss are main issues and as I needed to raise funds and also the profile of this training centre then I thought it a good idea to write this diet booklet which contained my proven diet method that I used and tweaked it to suit all people no matter their ability or sex. It became a best seller in Limerick for the 8 months I kept it on the shelves selling over 800 copies and decided to remove this booklet myself at the height of its popularity due to Christmas Holiday time approaching and the need for diet books at this time would not, in my mind, be viable.

It is now only available through my website but I do not push sales at the moment but will return to publicising it after I finish my role for the World event which takes up all of my time.

NM: Tell the story behind the Women Weightlifters photograph.

LB: I thought this would get some attention. A friend of mine was due to get married and as is the tradition of men who are due to get married we have what's called a "Stag" party. What usually happens is a night of drink-fuelled mayhem where the man in question is usually "tortured", for want of a better word.

On this occasion the man getting married, a bodybuilder, decided that he wanted a theme stag party and for us all to dress as women in contrast to the strong male personaes we normally generate. We agreed and we went off in our stag party to the city centre where that photograph was taken by the press who got wind of our activities very fast. We stopped traffic that day for all to see the spectacle. We toured Limerick and Clare throughout the day ending in Ennis where we were greeted with laughter and merriment wherever we went.

NM: What is your astrological sign?

LB: Not as straight forward as you would expect this question to be. I was born on 20th April 1965 which to most puts me as an Aries but some people have me as a Taurus. Incidentally Hitler was born on 20th April.

NM: Is seaweed a part of your diet?

LB: I do enjoy to eat seaweed but I would not consider its healthy benefits to be part of my diet, as I only partake of this substance when at the seaside town of Kilkee in the summer. There is a local variety of seaweed called "Dillisk" that is sold there on street stalls by the sea and has always been a firm favourite of mine. It is extremely rich in minerals and iodine which can boost your metabolism.

NM: What is your relationship to art? What attracted you to participate in this collaboration with the ISA?

LB: I have always had an affinity to art and when on holidays with my family we often opt to visit churches, cathedrals for the architecture and visit the country to take in the natural beauty and scenery that would befit a "Constable". I always preferred the museum or art gallery to the pub so it felt good and right to partake in your work for EV and A which is quite well known to me in Limerick. I often feel I have the artist temperament without the ability so to help those with the ability is the next best thing to me creating.

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